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Post by Just Equestrian on May 5, 2009 13:53:51 GMT
After Huge demand we are holding a few Miniature Horse/Shetland & Small Pony Shows this year. We would love to have some feedback as to what classes competitors would like to see at this type of show so that we cater for all..Any suggestions would be very welcome, as we are in the process of producing the schedules... We will have the correct Judges!!
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Post by xxamyxx on May 11, 2009 17:13:19 GMT
an 'unregistered shetland/mini horse' class would be most welcome as i know of a stud who breed a-maze-ing shetlands but don't register them, and it is a shame to see so many fab shets missing out on showing
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Post by allyscallywag1 on May 11, 2009 18:59:50 GMT
Why on earth would anyone want to breed "amazing Shetlands" and then not register them? Am I missing something here?
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Post by poppy on May 11, 2009 21:08:54 GMT
You took the words out of my mouth Andrea, why bother to breed and subject them to unknown parentage, crazy!
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Post by helen on May 11, 2009 21:38:32 GMT
I own a mini shetland stallion that is not registered with the stud book. We bought him at an auction not realising this as he is a Dutch import. I've since registered him with IMPS but believe you me it is heartbreaking not to be able to register him as he is outstanding and we've had countless requests for his services which of course we've declined. On Sunday at Badgworth he took res. ch. in hand. Go Rohan!!!
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Post by helen on May 11, 2009 21:42:40 GMT
As to ideas, what about mini horse classes 42" and under, 34" and under, separate classes for American miniatures and coloured classes with specials for highest placed different colours. Oh and split the classes into youngstock and adults for all types. ;D
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Post by bex on Jun 15, 2009 17:06:55 GMT
When are you holding these shows? As i have two miniatures and would likt to come
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Post by bluebell on Jun 15, 2009 17:37:54 GMT
How small is small pony? Is 12hh too big? If not, please, please, please SHP in hand and SHP lead rein x
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Post by jem on Jun 15, 2009 18:34:16 GMT
SPSBS Affiliated classes for Registered Shetlands would be nice
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Post by dymonds on Jun 16, 2009 6:19:12 GMT
sounds good to me.
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Post by xxamyxx on Jun 18, 2009 18:52:04 GMT
the reason why is because some people have rescue mares or beautiful ones they have been offered who throw lovely foals but aren't reg, or because people have 40 or something and can't afford it, or they want to show their child's unreg little shetland - i could go on, but i'll spare you all - have a look at this website allyscallywag and you'll see what i mean..... www.alaskenshetlands.co.uk/
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Post by jem on Jun 18, 2009 23:01:45 GMT
I have looked at the web site.....and not wishing to be rude or anything .....but i dont get your point - All the foundation ponies on the site are Registered and from very good responsible studs who register stock for good reason to give them all the best Market Value So is this stud breeding from good registered stock and then not bothering to register the progeny.............. I always get worried for the fate of ponies that are bred by owners who dont register them........there is a big bad world out there for Some Shetlands just look at any horse rescue centre and they are full of shetlands most without papers Being registered with the SPSBS gives the pony a better chance in life - If you cant afford the cost to register your stock with the SPSBS with respect i dont think you should be breeding in the first instance. I do agree there should be some classes for ponies without papers - but not in a manner to incourage anyone to just not bother to register ponies
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Post by dymonds on Jun 19, 2009 6:28:19 GMT
Your spot on Jem unreg shetlands are a problem without a passport. You want good breeding policy with any breed these days.
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Post by medwinatswpa on Jun 20, 2009 11:11:01 GMT
With I disagreeociation secretarys hat on - I am constantly asked about registration, types etc for all breeds of ponies and there are many people out there who are totally new to ponies, breeding and showing and are fed a story line about what they can/cannot do with the pony they are about to buy! Dartmoor hill ponies was my last inquiry.
Personally, I have two shetlands that are not registered - mother and daughter - that were my first ponies and they have taught my own and half the villages kids to ride. I show them in a variety of classes - now as veterans for the last few years with my friends children riding them. I would have loved to have got them registered for riding purposes only with the Shetland society when they opened the books to these types of ponies many years ago. I am sure there are many more ponies like this who could have a value as a performance animal, but be prevented from breeding [geldings and barren mares only]
Still wearing my personal hat I have been told by a breeder "no point in registering that one as it isn't very good and I won't get the money it costs to register him plus his value back in what I can sell him for". A true statement BUT it won't help raise the value of ponies if you continue to flood the market with unregistered ones! The dartmoors and New Forest have managed to raise the selling value of their sales animals over recent years and the WPCS have an "upset" price of min £200 for colts and £300 for fillies at their sales. Other societies need to look at this area in a similar way as there is a welfare issue here I feel.
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Post by jem on Jun 20, 2009 17:19:10 GMT
I think a few of us are aware of the lovely grey shetland that is out under saddle at the moment in the South West - I think she might have even been Judged by some ladies on this forum quite recently This pony has the most caring of owners who have produced the pony very well and have her out at local level But..........Sadly they cannot take the pony any further due to the fact it was sold to them without any Papers........I have done a bit of digging myself for them to find out if anyone did register her as a foal in hope of her paper work turning up...but nothing has come to light yet.... This is just one local example of a true to type Shetland that could really hold her own at affiliated shows if only she was registered I am sure she is doing a grand job at the local shows and everyone loves her to bits but it does Limit what shows the family can do .......which is a great shame
I think the cost of registering foals with the SPSBS is something silly like £8.50 for a Filly and £5.50 for a Colt so its not really very much Reading SPSBS Sale did bring in an upset price for colts ........i think it was £50g......im sure Andrea will correct me if i am wrong on that.
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