jules
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Post by jules on Sept 10, 2007 20:45:31 GMT
hi, recently i took one of our horses in an in-hand class at a local show, a coloured class (open to duns, palaminos and roans too!!) our horse was only one of three (proper) coloured horses in the ring, we were placed 5th, the judges comments were, "you should have a sliphead for the rugby pelham" i took this as to her reason why we were placed at the end of the line, don't get me wrong it's not a case of sour grapes-i just go with the flow! but is it common to have a sliphead for a rugby pelham.
even my friend who recommended i use that type of bit, and leant it to me had never heard of having to use a sliphead, only for a double bridle with two seperate bits.
can anybody shed some light on this please??
jules
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Post by masters on Sept 10, 2007 21:04:11 GMT
We use a rugby sometimes on Chase, never used a sliphead!!!
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Post by titch on Sept 11, 2007 10:55:24 GMT
Yeah that's what i thought aswell Helen. So horses that can't take a double bridle look almost like they have one on.
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Post by masters on Sept 11, 2007 11:52:12 GMT
Yes Helen I know it was designed to have a sliphead but it seems to work well on Chase without, well something has since we used it this way, (or someone has swopped ponies in the night, ha ha) Obviously we shall have to change it for the show ring!!! Sorry to confuse you Jules, there are right and wrong ways to use these items and it's great that we are able to use this site to ask such thing's.
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Post by medwinatswpa on Sept 11, 2007 15:44:37 GMT
I quote from the book "The Horse and the Bit" by Susan McBane
"The Rugby Pelham, with a loose bridoon ring connected to the bit by a link, is perhaps closer than anything else to the occassional examples of the pelham type bits found in the early classical schools. Rarely, however, is it used as it was intended. For it to give a greater upward force to the bit, the bridoon ring should be suspended from a sliphead". It is later in the book described as "finding favour with showing exhibitors, often with a mullen mouthpiece together with the loose rings attached closly to the cheeks to resemble a double bridle".
Hope this helps.
PS It is a very good book to have!
JULES - I think you could describe the judges comments more as an "observation" than a reason for your placing. I don't think any judge would put you down the line because you had the bit in incorrectly - but could it have made a good head look a little cluttered and therefore distracting the judges eye from the horse to the bridle? Get someone to hold him/her and stand back and try several mouthpieces to see which gives the best overall appearance.
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bex
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Post by bex on Sept 12, 2007 18:35:21 GMT
thankyou everybody for your comments, i will have to buy a sliphead to use with the rugby pelham.and i will also try different bits to see which suits him best
thanks again jules
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Post by suneagle on Sept 15, 2007 9:33:09 GMT
i used to show freddie in a rugby pelham and always used a slip as i got told so it looks like a double but only having one mouth peice, espially as freddie has a very small mouth he wouldnt cope with two bits. also the top ring is surposed to be the snaffle, so if you dont have something to hold the snaffle up it wont be in use and you will be constantly using the bottom stronger ring, where as it only surposed to come into play when you need abit extra breaks/control. when freddie gets ridden in his pelham i always ride in double rains even when i used to do jumping with him.
but also my friend used to show a hunter with a HUGE head there was alot of cheek showing... so she showed in a normal pelham but still had a head slip becuase it actually made his head look better, and she never got commented on it.
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Post by bubbles on Sept 15, 2007 11:04:29 GMT
This is interesting for me as well as have always shown with inhand bridles with rubber snaffles, you learn something new everyday :-)
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