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Post by Hats Galore on Mar 10, 2011 8:38:14 GMT
Before our final planning meeting around the 20th March 11. If you have any thoughts, ideas or requests on sections within the GwynBeth please do post them here and we will then have the opportunity to review before the meeting. We all say "I wish there was a certain class in a schedule"and you do now have the opportunity to make that request. We will try and accommodate and if we cannot we will, at the very least, explain why not. Your comments will be appreciated. If you have any questions or queries, please do also ask. Obviously once the schedule and time table is set after the meeting, we will have to run with it so we need your input before the meeting
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Post by karcher on Mar 14, 2011 12:57:53 GMT
Can I just ask, why do the exhibits not need to be registered part breds? Surely if not registered then anyone can say they have a part bred? When we enter any such classes we normally have tp prove that it is registered. We have been lucky enough to fall in with your criteria for the last two shows and yet again are lucky enough to fall within (with 4 this time!) your criteria.
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Post by Hats Galore on Mar 15, 2011 13:47:27 GMT
Firstly, thank you for your question. As you state being registered in the part bred sections with any Breed or Showing Society is the route many Competitors take and that is because they enter the classes set down by them and if you are not registered with them whilst competing and wish to, they give you a time limit to join. Many, many shows do not set such criteria in the non-affiliated part-bred classes which range from lead rein to Hunters, Competition, Veterans and Coloureds and should a pure bred appear in such a class they would tend to be spotted and have it pointed out that they had entered the wrong class - as does happen. May I also take this opportunity to thank you for your support, it is appreciated and may your 2011 Season be a successful one. If I may be of further assistance or have not answered your question fully enough, please do come back
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Post by karcher on Mar 16, 2011 14:12:20 GMT
Thank you for your response. We are looking forward to this fantastic showing class. From your answer can I assume that the catergories will be hunter, rh, hacks, that sort of thing or PBA, PBW, Part bred native, that sort of thing? Not that it makes any difference to us as we'll be there no matter what! Roll on Sept! X
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Post by Hats Galore on Mar 17, 2011 12:45:15 GMT
You are absolutely right - part breds from lead reins to hunters, competition types, coloureds and, of course, our beloved Veterans. There will also be young stock. With in hand and Riddens there will be plenty of choice and opportunity to enter. As part of our forthcoming meeting we will be discussing the entry fees especially if Competitors are entering more than once. I will keep this thread updated. Finally - thank you for your kind words Thank you for your
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Post by mrogers on Mar 18, 2011 14:19:18 GMT
I agree with what you say karcher. A hunter could be a full bred warmblood or Id and a riding horse or hack could be a full bred tb. It may be easy to pick out a full breed if it is a good stamp of its breed but with the poorer types of breed it can be very hard. Equally a pure bred B could be plaited up to be a very good SHP, What would stop these people putting down on the entry froms that it is indeed a pb instead of a full breed?
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Post by Hats Galore on Mar 20, 2011 17:45:48 GMT
Just an update - we shall be meeting with richard and Medwin, hopefully, in the next few days then we can put out some firm details of the day
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Post by pencaedu on Mar 24, 2011 20:04:28 GMT
well put mrogers.
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Post by karcher on Mar 25, 2011 14:23:34 GMT
Agreed and well put mrogers. Hadn't thought of the pure bred angle.
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Post by Hats Galore on Mar 29, 2011 14:11:55 GMT
The inside front page in the April edition of Native Pony will be the "story" of GwynBeth2011 and will highlight the classes, judges and sponsors. We did a round of advertising in February and during April will we place adverts to keep the GwynBeth in Competitors, Public, Sponsors,etc., minds and will follow up in July/ August with final infomation of the Day and the weekend. If you would like to Sponsor, please do contact me. Sponsoring does not prevent you from entering the GwynBeth.
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Post by helle on Apr 6, 2011 10:19:06 GMT
Yes, I too am a bit confused / concerned about the un-registred bit of the part-breds. We have a lovely little PBW who we also show as a SHP and would like to show him in both sections. However I know of someone who has a lovely little section B that they plat and also show as a SHP, what is to stop her from entering her pony? TBH it would make me think twice about entering at all.......
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Post by Hats Galore on Apr 7, 2011 9:21:37 GMT
The Rules will quite clearly state the entry conditions and the majority of Competitors are honest and will be treated as such. There may or may not be a few entries that will need scrutiny and these will be dealt with in an appropriate manner. Of the small amount of entries that will need scrutiny most of them will be by genuine misunderstanding. Also, with the calibre of Judges I do not think you should be concerned. We wish for Competitors to enjoy the day and leave the problems to us. We will deal with any issues and thank you for your input and if on the day you have any reason for concern with an entry, the GwynBeth will have its own Administration area this year so you can easily pop along and speak to us. No Competitor will be disadvantaged.
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Post by medwinatswpa on Apr 9, 2011 18:19:25 GMT
Equally a pure bred B could be plaited up to be a very good SHP, What would stop these people putting down on the entry froms that it is indeed a pb instead of a full breed? The registration numbers are different - I will know straight away!
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Post by medwinatswpa on Apr 9, 2011 18:38:48 GMT
Yes, I too am a bit confused / concerned about the un-registred bit of the part-breds. We have a lovely little PBW who we also show as a SHP and would like to show him in both sections. However I know of someone who has a lovely little section B that they plat and also show as a SHP, what is to stop her from entering her pony? TBH it would make me think twice about entering at all....... The plaited section B would not be able to enter and I will know that straight away [see comment above] from their entry form. The question of un-registered and registered I hope to clarify by saying that any horse or pony WILL be either a "type" or a "breed" or both! An example of this could be a palamino with unknown breeding that is "registered" with the Palamino society as a colour but is "unregistered" with any breed society. That pony is not a "registered" part bred as it does not have recognised breed bloodlines such as Arab, Welsh, TB etc. This often applies to show ponies and show hunter ponies, and as competitors you must allow our highly prestigious judges to look at the quality, conformation and presence of each exhibit in classes in the part bred section and judge what they deem as the best pony/horse. In the other "type" sections they will be looking for all the above criteria - BUT as a show pony, or show hunter etc Hope this helps.
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Post by Hats Galore on Apr 9, 2011 18:45:34 GMT
Update from GwynBeth/SWPA meeting Thursday 7 April
The GwynBeth Champion – from the part bred section for ponies and Horses. No Mountain, Moorland, Breeds may complete in this section. The pony classes will cover the following part bred types: Show; show hunter, riding, coloured, and competition type ponies. Lead rein, first ridden, ridden and in hand classes. The part bred section for Horses will include classes for the following part bred types: Intermediates, Hunters, Show Cobs, Hacks, Riding Horse, Coloureds and Competition types - subject to entries. Ridden and in hand classes. In hand Young stock classes for ponies and horses. The Schedule and time table will be available early May. The GwynBeth Veteran Champion may be any part bred type, Mountain and Moreland or Breed. Ridden and in hand classes by age groupings 15-19, 20-25 and 25plus years of age The Schedule and time table will be available early May Entry fees will be £25 for one class and £10 for all additional classes. Much more to be added shortly
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