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Post by tiggy01 on Apr 29, 2008 15:28:10 GMT
Trouble is if stewards where not allowed to show then our own ponies would not go out and therefore why would we want to be involved with that show in an ideal world we would have committee members and stewards who did not show themselves but this is not an ideal world as it is I would love to be able to ride my own pony but can't because I am too busy organising and stewarding at SWPA shows and its too difficult but I am not prepared to leave my ponies at home when I have competent riders and a husband who can show in hand for me.
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Post by cartier on Apr 29, 2008 15:53:38 GMT
less shows maybe
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Post by mrogers on Apr 29, 2008 16:21:34 GMT
That would kind of defeat the purpose of a showing society
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Post by medwinatswpa on Apr 29, 2008 18:05:36 GMT
Sadly the Championship show costs a small fortune to stage with the floodlights, sound system etc and hire of a venue for two or three days. We need to run 6/7 other shows at a profit to pour that profit back into the accounts to counter balance the loss at the champs! If we dont do that then we would need to be like PUK etc and run the Champs to break even with much higher entry fees, memberships, registrations and stabling costs etc.
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Post by cartier on May 1, 2008 6:58:10 GMT
it was only a suggestion thought less shows would cut down on cost and manpower. I was only trying to be helpful.
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Post by karcher on May 1, 2008 8:06:03 GMT
Perhaps charlie means that classes should have "not before" times stated. As competitors we do our entries by trying to second guess what times classes are on. We enter and then find out our classes clash because some classes run earlier than expected (due to no entries in previous classes)and then the ones we have entered all clash. Think that's what's meant, so how do we push the classes that aren't well supported? ??
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Post by chuckles06 on May 2, 2008 13:17:12 GMT
I didn't mind doing the mixed height shp classes at badgworth a few years back, it made the 143/153cms riders actually have to ride otherwise th small ponies showed them up.
Shame that you don't get more help organising/stewarding as i know the taunton racecourse show always stole organising time from the champs (i'm assuming thats why it had to stop). I would steward but our horses/ A levels tie me down. It would be a good idea to ask me though as i can do the odd show.
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Post by hermione on Jun 13, 2008 12:52:54 GMT
How about dividing up the shows, so perhaps the Feb show is working hunters, the Good Friday show is plaited youngstock / inhand & plaited ridden, the Spring show M&M in hand & ridden.... this may allow you to run individual classes for each age group without running on until 6pm at night. And those that have horses that qualify for both get the chance to go to both shows! I attended the show in March to do the ridden M&M large breeds and was very disapointed that there was only one other in each of my classes! A few of my friends didnt enter because they didnt want to go to a show that late in the day (I think I was in the ring about 5pm) It is a shame that people dont go for the 'rosette to the best yearling' idea as I think this is a great idea and a lot of classes could be run like this (SHP, RP, M&M) 'rosette to best novice' etc. It is meant to be fun afterall! Perhaps the indoor shows need smaller schedules so people arent on late in the day? when there is 27 classes on before yours it is a bit off putting, especially if people need to get home for other horses, work etc. I dont envy the committee their jobs!
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Post by mrogers on Jun 13, 2008 13:38:59 GMT
thats actually a good idea. Good Thinking Bat Man!!!!
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Post by karcher on Jun 20, 2008 22:37:01 GMT
We don't mind doing mixed height classes, instead of 122 shp, 133shp etc and maybe give first rosettes to the heighest placed in each height? 1 class lots of entries, less rosettes, more profit!
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Post by medwinatswpa on Jun 21, 2008 8:19:12 GMT
We do have mixed height classes at all the indoor shows and we do split the indoor shows as we have a working hunter show at Poltimore followed two weeks later by an inhand and ridden show. Thats our winter range of shows. M&M's get just large and small at the winter shows. Members that join from January would get these early schedules.
There is no point in doing that at the outdoor summer shows as we have so much space. Also there are many exhibitors who will not put their small child on the 122 cms pony in the ring with the larger 153 cms. So we loose them as competitors and feel that in the summer shows they must have their own individual height classes.
There is also a large number of people who feel that judges always go for the larger ponies and therefore won't enter a mixed class. When you judge a mixed class as one, then you set a standard against which you assess all of the exhibits before you. In most cases that highest standard will be the adult riding the larger exhibit and they will perform to a higher standard than the younger children. Where's the fairness in that! You would not put a primary school child into an FE College and expect them to perform as equals.
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Post by jem on Jun 21, 2008 18:15:17 GMT
I havent read all this thread but does it need improving ! From what i see there are classes for just about everyone and everything... the association do marvels getting all these classes covered with stewards.....we are just so lucky that we have all these shows in this area
I always think you will never please everyone and that includes me - but many thanks for trying
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Post by marian on Jun 21, 2008 20:32:20 GMT
at least you are honest an we stewards take a lot of flack as well.but there again rudness is not called for in any part of the show .we are there to enjoy it the same as the competitors.but they are sat on ponies/horses we are on our feet the whole time up an down the ring s. we give up our days off so you all can have agood days showing .so think twice before you moan an groan its all fun .so enjoy.
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Post by marian on Jun 21, 2008 20:34:34 GMT
jem that was not said too you sorry if it looked that way but the public in general who compete at shows .
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Post by karcher on Jun 22, 2008 6:56:47 GMT
mixed heights - we allways worry that the littlies have the edge, but point taken. The only answer is don't fix what's not broken! Perhaps you'll have to insist that each member gets/ sponsors one class per year/ membership? Each member stewards at least one class per year or allocates someone to do it for them???
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